I think that's the old saying, in this case meaning that I'm trying to salvage something that may be beyond repair. I recorded some classical guitar a while back, and was using the two built-in pick-ups on my acoustic-electric, which gives an okay sound quality, but not great. This method tends to pick up a lot of bassy rumble if I'm doing rapid tremolo finger-picking. Think there's anything in Logic that could help reduce the rumble on this existing recording? I suspect using proper mics and good placement is the best way, but I don't have the gear, and my studio is my living room, which picks up lots of street sound whenever I use mics. Any ideas for a filter or EQ setting in Logic to help with the old recording?

Hi Sammy You're right, mic placement and lack of street sound is the most important factor. However, Logic has some great plugins you can use to help your sound... Check out the Channel EQ and turn on the Analyser. You'll now have a view of the frequencies. Use the different filters, especially the high pass and low shelving filters to see if you can reduce the offending frequencies enough without taking away from the guitar itself. You could also try increasing some of the other filters to accentuate the higher frequencies. Also, check out the the denoiser plug-in. It works by reducing the noise signal below a threshold that you set. I'd love to see a "denoiser 2" in a future Logic, but you may find that careful use of the two plugins can bring good results. Another also... are you using Logic Studio? If yes, then you have Sound Track Pro 2 at your disposal! There are some noise print and removal functions in STP2 which can work well depending on the material. Let us know how you get on. Cheers Rounik

Thanks for the tips. I'll try the EQ stuff first. Y'know, I've never even opened Soundtrack yet. I have a habit of finding the basics in any program I use, and only rarely venturing beyond my comfort zone. Silly habit; maybe it's time to beat an old dog... I'm just full of the sayings today! Is there a ST specific tutorial?

Hi Sammy, check out: [url]http://www.macprovideo.com/tutorial/soundtrackPro2[/url] It's very good! Once it becomes part of your comfort zone...no need to beat an old dog ;) Take care, Rounik

I just checked out a couple of the sample videos, and ST and Logic seem almost interchangeable. Both have the ability to sync to video, both are good at minute editing... I'm not totally sure when I might use ST instead of Logic.

The EQ/analysis trick really helped the sound. I didn't remove the bassy flutter altogether, but got rid of most of it, and the file sounds much better. Thanks for that.

Great! STP is strictly an audio (not MIDI) editor. It's designed for video post and is has some features that Logic doesn't. You can reduce noise easily by setting a noise print. You can select frequencies using the frequency selection tool! (this might get rid of the bassy flutter altogether). STP also has analysis tools ( automatic clicks and pops detection) and can reinsert ambinet noise back into the audio file. Even better, any changes made to an audio file can be undone at any time in the Actions tab by clicking it on/off. You can also use STP as your audio editor from Logic: Options > Audio > Open in Sound Track Pro. Cheers Rounik

If you were able to post a track somewhere for us to listen to, i think we'd definitely be able to help you more. In a way, i know exactly what your talking about and the sound that you're getting. But from my experience, whenever i come across a nylon classical with a piezo, i really don't know what i'm going to get. They differ in response so much that you really have to assess each instrument individually.