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  • SixStringsDown
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    Joined: Feb 14th, 2009, 12:13
    output peaking with limiter
    why does the output peak even when there is a limiter on it?
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  • Rounik Admin
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    Joined: Dec 16th, 2006, 08:13
    Re: output peaking with limiter
    Hi Tieg, Try setting the Output Level at -0.3 / 0.4db and make sure the Gain setting isn't too high. What setting do you have for the look ahead and Release? :) Rounik
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  • SixStringsDown
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    Joined: Feb 14th, 2009, 12:13
    Re: output peaking with limiter
    I've tried the look ahead at normal, and all the way up. not sure about the release. I guess the question could be, is this supposed to happen? You didn't sound surprised, so I'm guessing it is. I just assumed if you put a limit on something it wouldn't pass it. I can never get my songs as compressed as Steve H. does in his Mastering tutorial. They clip. He mentions getting a pop song in a 5 db range or something and I can't seem to get under 10. Especially if I'm having to keep the gain setting down in the limiter. I haven't looked at the Release. would that have something to do with it?
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  • Cajypiu
    Posts: 400
    Joined: Oct 11th, 2006, 09:48
    Re: output peaking with limiter
    Hi Tieg, like any kind of tool, audio or otherwise, you have to apply it in the right way. There are two limiters in Logic (by labelling not including setting up the compressors to be a limiter) the limiter and adaptive limiter. By design it is supposed to stop signals from going over a certain threshold, however, no signal is generally the same! So, in some applications, the rate of change of the audio signal might be so fast that the limiter has to be 'tuned' in order for it to behave as it is supposed to. As a rule of thumb, it is always wise to set the threshold just below 0db.... as Rounik suggested, maybe -0.3, 0.4... really as long as it's a few points of a decimal place below 0, that'll be enough.... and then it's case of playing the knobs until it sounds like you want it to. Lookahead is there if you need it.. and like dropping the max ceiling to -0.3 or 0.4, it is there to give the limiter a helping hand for analysing the signal before it processes it. Using limiters with lookahead are therefore not recommended when recording or tracking MIDI performances because by it's nature, the lookahead delays the signal (additional latency) for it to limit it properly. As for how much to squash your signal by, well that is purely a matter of taste and it a hot potato of a topic too! Some styles of music warrant less dynamic range. Some warrant more - think pop and classical respectively. There is a growing movement to standardise dynamic range though, like in the film industry, as there is the perception that louder is better.... but that's another thread! Cheers, j
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  • SixStringsDown
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    Joined: Feb 14th, 2009, 12:13
    Re: output peaking with limiter
    Thanks a bunch. I'll mess with it =)
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