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  • AudioIrony
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    Joined: Dec 17th, 2007, 10:11
    Randomiser and sample start - random jump ?
    Hi, I was revisiting March TNT with Rounik's randomiser. What I want to achieve is the ability to control EXS24 "Sample Start" position and randomise it to jump to random positions in a loaded patch or loop. I did a quick test by just assigning sample start as a destination and velocity and source in the modulation section of the EXS24. I then loaded a loop of my own voice counting 1 2 3 4 5 . Anyway, couldn't get it to work as each time the loop was triggered from the keyboard, the sample just played from 1 every time regardless of velocity at which the key was struck. If I played with attack ranges in the ENV section - I could get the sample to start from 2 - but that was about it. I tried assigning the source as LFO2 and leaving the Destination as "Sample Start" and then using a randomiser macro to modulate LFO2. No effect. The manual for EXS24 states that "Sample Start" should, in theory, allow you to re-trigger, for example, a drum loop and have it start at different points in the loop - but I just can't seem to get this working. Any help appreciated. Regards
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  • Rounik Admin
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    Joined: Dec 16th, 2006, 08:13
    Re: Randomiser and sample start - ...
    Hi Audioirony, Let me have a little think about this one. This is a great question and something I would definitely love to be able to do myself as I'm a closet glitch fan. From a brief experiment, Sample Start acts the way you describe. Best Rounik
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  • AudioIrony
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    Joined: Dec 17th, 2007, 10:11
    Re: Randomiser and sample start - ...
    Thanks Rounik, appreciate your efforts
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  • Rounik Admin
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    Joined: Dec 16th, 2006, 08:13
    Re: Randomiser and sample start - ...
    Hi Audioirony, Again after a brief test, splitting the audio file into separate samples may be the easiest way to achieve this. What version of Logic are you running? Logic 9 allows a very quick way to turn an audio file into a Sampler Instrument... :) Rounik
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  • AudioIrony
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    Joined: Dec 17th, 2007, 10:11
    Re: Randomiser and sample start - ...
    Thanks again for your efforts Rounik. I do indeed use Logic 9 and have used the region to sampler instrument many times. This does work well for drum beats and regions with defined transients - and it's easy enough to go into the midi editor and randomise the generated midi notes. What I would truly love to achieve is to "blur" longer evolving samples and turn them into little "Glitch clouds". I might try and set this up using Bounce in place, flex markers and then convert to sampler instrument. I was just hoping for a one step, one size fits all solution in the environment. Save as a "Glitch Factory" environment template :) Thanks again
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  • Rounik Admin
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    Joined: Dec 16th, 2006, 08:13
    Re: Randomiser and sample start - ...
    Without the ability for the Environment to process Audio / wave samples it's gonna to difficult to do this, other than Steve H's great Generative Music machine. Have you thought about Max/MSP by Cycling74? It's a bit like Logic's Environment but even bigger and some would say better. You can build plugins and stand alone music melding mayhem there. Additionally, there's a few plugins that would be able to glitch up your sounds. Here's a couple to get you going: [url]http://mdsp.smartelectronix.com/livecut/[/url] [url]http://www.gleetchplug.com/Gleetchplug/software.html[/url] [url]http://bram.smartelectronix.com/plugins.php?id=6[/url] :) Rounik
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  • AudioIrony
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    Joined: Dec 17th, 2007, 10:11
    Re: Randomiser and sample start - ...
    Thanks again Rounik. I am aware of the other tools available. I don't use them :) I do use Audio Damage Replicant. I did have varied success by trial and error and a lot of messing about with generated sampler instruments. Looping, reversing and cross fading each little segment and triggering them randomly via midi. Bounce in place is also a god send :)
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