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  • logicluvva
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    Velocity & Attack/Decay Times...Ultrabeat
    Hullo. I would like to have a deeper explanation when utilising velocity modulation of the attack and decay parts of the Ultrabeat envelopes. I can't get it to work. I'd like certain snare hits to snap shorter.The loudest one here and there. I suppose I could just use another Ultrabeat snare channel. I just wanted to see if this is possible using velocity to modulate the decay time of the volume envelope.On the same channel. I seem to be having very little luck when adjusting the slider at the side too. I don't hear any usable difference. I haven't seen any good explanations online so far as they skimp through it usually. I would like to avoid decay-time automation for such small parts too. Thanks for the help !
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  • Rounik Admin
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    Re: Velocity & Attack/Decay Times...Ultrabeat
    Hey Video 27 of the Ultrabeat Unleashed tutorial shows you how! (No need to look anywhere else online!! ;-) Turn on the Step Edit mode under the Sequencer Power button. Select a step (to highlight it yellow) and adjust the ADSR. :)
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  • logicluvva
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    Re: Velocity & Attack/Decay Times...Ultrabeat
    Thanks. I have been trying to update my tutorials but Ned keeps crashing. Have tried trashing preferences too but no joy. I was using the step sequencer to get a basic beat. Then transferring it to the Arrange page and editing it further in the Piano Roll and Event List like many do. I had just wanted to use Velocity to modulate the Decay time within Logic's own Editors. Thanks, I hope I download the updates so I can see if the answers are there Cheers
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  • Rounik Admin
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    Re: Velocity & Attack/Decay Times...Ultrabeat
    Hi logicluvva, Please contact our Support team re: NED crashing. They'll be able to help you out: [url]http://www.macprovideo.com/support/[/url] As for your question, I think I've answered it above. Perhaps I misunderstood your question, but here's how to alter the parameters of the envelope for any individual snare hits in Ultrabeat: 1. Make sure you're not in "Full View" in UB and select the Snare Voice. 2. Click on the "Step Mode" button in the bottom left of Ultrabeat's interface. [img]http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/1158/step1u.png[/img] 3. Notice the steps in the Step Sequencer & controls in the main area are highlighted yellow. Click on the top of a step to select it. [img]http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/1360/step2zh.png[/img] 4. Any of the parameters highlighted yellow can be adjusted differently for individual steps. SImply move the parameter's value either graphically: [img]http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/2945/step3dd.png[/img] and/or using the parameter menu: [img]http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/1500/step3ai.png[/img] You can also adjust the value by dragging up/down on the step itself. [img]http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/1893/step4lu.png[/img] 5. Once you've dragged the pattern into Logic you can then view the HyperDraw data and choose "Auto Define" to see the changes made: [img]http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9779/step5l.png[/img] or even better check out the Event List to see the MIDI event data that has been written into the region: [img]http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/9239/step6.png[/img] Personally if you're definitely going to do more editing in Logic's other MIDI editors, I'd suggest using Track Automation to automate the desired parameters manually for a region and then copy the automation. EIther way you should get the results you're looking for. :) Rounik
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  • logicluvva
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    Re: Velocity & Attack/Decay Times...Ultrabeat
    Thanks for the clarity and breadth of information. I think it's about me getting used to the number of ways one can achieve a desired goal within Logic. If I were to use the slider at the side of the envelope and use it to affect the decay time.....according to the manual..the harder hits would produce shorter decay times. So, when playing in the snare hit I should be able to control the 'impact' of the sound by altering it's velocity in the desired way. (When I use velocity to affect decay times in Battery 3 I get a more 'responsive' drum hit.I can hear what's going on , in other words.) This doesn't seem to be the case in Ultrabeat. Not as noticeable anyway. I will use automation as you suggested. Thanks for mentioning the autodefine and explaining it all. I had thought that using automation on the odd snare hit would waste resources. Only because someone told me that Automation is CPU intensive. Thanks again and have a good weekend. My Battery 3 is crashing recently so I really want to complete my understanding of Ultrabeat. Cheers, Rounik : )
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  • Rounik Admin
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    Re: Velocity & Attack/Decay Times...Ultrabeat
    No probs! So, remember there's two types of automation in Logic: Track based automation and Region Based automation. The way I explained above is Region based (also known as Hyper Draw - not to be confused with the Hyper Editor ;) Who told you that automation is CPU intensive? And which type of automation were they referring to? Have a great weekend! Rounik
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  • logicluvva
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    Re: Velocity & Attack/Decay Times...Ultrabeat
    Thanks. That was from when I was recording in other people's studios.A few years back.Before I had gotten Logic for myself. They meant Track Automation. I'm using a Mac Pro with 4Gb RAM. Logic 32 Bit. Mainly basic demos with, so far, little automation.My first Logic was Logic 8. Now I use 9.1.4. The more I work the more I get into the automation. I am well versed with Logic now and it was just this thing about Ultrabeat's envelopes. Thanks for all the help.
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  • Rounik Admin
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    Re: Velocity & Attack/Decay Times...Ultrabeat
    It's true that Track Automation may require a little more cpu/memory than Region Based Automation - but in today's world with the power available in current Macs this is really not an issue! Automation - both track and region based are so cool! You'll find some excellent articles and tutorials on The Hub on automation if you type in "automation" in the 'Search The Hub' box. Here's a few to dig in to: [url]http://www.macprovideo.com/hub/search?query=automation[/url] :)
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  • logicluvva
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    Re: Velocity & Attack/Decay Times...Ultrabeat
    Woah. Treasure Trove !! I'll never get any sleep. Great stuff !
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  • Rounik Admin
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    Re: Velocity & Attack/Decay Times...Ultrabeat
    Glad you like it! Keep checking back because we're publishing at least one new tip/tutorial/article every day! Over 350 articles (about 130+ purely on Logic) and plenty more to exclusive content waiting in the wings!! I'll probably make a Quick Tip article out of the "Automating Ultrabeat In Step Mode" tips above ;-) Cheers!
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