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  • hutz
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    Joined: Feb 14th, 2013, 04:56
    song structure with pro logic 9
    hi,im new to pro logic( production),I'm struggling with the structure of the song.my genre of music is dubstep, all my bass sounds seem to (clash) not fit together,also some help with making some baselines e.g wobble, yoy. maybe some presets,i would appreciate some help thanks.
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  • Rounik Admin
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    Joined: Dec 16th, 2006, 08:13
    Re: song structure with pro logic 9
    Hi, Sounds like you're having problems with the mix as much as the arrangement? Have you checked out this Logic Pro video tutorial for Dubstep? [url]http://www.macprovideo.com/tutorial/logic409-dubstep-essentials[/url] I think you may find it really, really helpful. R
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  • hutz
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    Joined: Feb 14th, 2013, 04:56
    Re: song structure with pro logic 9
    thanks for help.im going to check it out now.
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  • hutz
    Posts: 11
    Joined: Feb 14th, 2013, 04:56
    Re: song structure with pro logic 9
    iv seen the tutorial recently. i think its getting the bass lines in order to sound right,i don't think the tutorial helped with that specific topic I'm after. im ok with most, just the basslines as in dubstep its different sounds all grouped together,thats what im finding difficult.
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  • Rounik Admin
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    Joined: Dec 16th, 2006, 08:13
    Re: song structure with pro logic 9
    Sounds like it's a mixing issue which could be rectified using corrective EQing. Although not for dub step, Olav's tutorials for EDM are very useful: for example: [url]http://www.macprovideo.com/tutorial/logic406[/url] I'd recommend trying to mix the kick and bass in isolation and finding ways of giving them space in the frequency range through cutting frequencies at certain points. Difficult to give anything more than generic advice without being able to hear/see it of course, but if the original sounds clash too much then even reductive EQing may not help and you may have to adjust your original sounds a bit more.
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  • GaryHiebner
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    Joined: May 6th, 2007, 12:54
    Re: Re: song structure with pro logic 9
    Hi mpv_user_228893, In Dubstep the bass sounds are treated differently than most other genres. They act more as a lead sound than a bass. They occupy quite a huge band in the frequency range. They can be anything from low subby sounds all the way through to distorted ear-wrenching mi to high range bass lead sounds. And on top of that the bass is normally a collection of 3-4 or more sounds that work together all to build up the big bass sounds in current dubstep productions. The Logic tutorial is a good example of where multiple bass tracks are used to build up the sounds, and as Rounik mentioned you also need to use reductive EQing techniques so that each bass sound is distinguished clearly in the mix. I find that compressors and and saturation plugins help to brings these sounds out. And if you have any transient designer plugins these work really well too to bring out the attack transients in these bass sounds. What instruments/plugins are you using to create your dubstep bass tracks? Take a look at this article on how to use other techniques such as multiband processing to alter the bass sounds for more saturation and Eq possibilities: [url]http://www.macprovideo.com/hub/logic-pro/split-band-processing-bass-in-logic-pro[/url] [url]http://www.macprovideo.com/hub/logic-pro/logic-pro-gritty-beats-parallel-saturation[/url] Or for vowel sounding bass instruments you can create a Vowel shifting EQ in Logic for the track [url]http://www.macprovideo.com/hub/logic-pro/vowel-eq-shifting-in-logic-pro[/url]
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  • hutz
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    Joined: Feb 14th, 2013, 04:56
    Re: song structure with pro logic 9
    thanks for the help i think it's sounding better playing with the EQ and watching lots of tutorials
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