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  • toine
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    Joined: Dec 19th, 2007, 06:21
    Pitch Bend
    Hi, I'm new with Logic and checked all the tutorials. Everyhting works great so far except a problem with automation when I want to pitch bend. I use a Korg K-25, USB connection. I want to pitchbend synth sounds, I try ES2 and another one and had the same problem.Whe I used my pitch-benderwheel to control volume or another feature it works , but once I want to use the bend(up or down) automation, the automation changes but I don't hear a bend. Can somebody help me? Thx
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  • steveH
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    Joined: Oct 17th, 2006, 05:19
    Re: Pitch Bend
    What parameter are you selecting to automate?
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  • toine
    Posts: 39
    Joined: Dec 19th, 2007, 06:21
    Re: Pitch Bend
    I use the sound Faster Thoughts of the ES2, I use the Bender Range Up, what I guess is correct, 'cause the digit of my bend in ES2 interface and in my Edit Window match. I can automate it as I said, I see the bend in ES2 changing while I play it, I see the curve i the automation, so everything is right, except, the sound that comes trough, is not bended. I must say, normally I use my Tascam FW-1082 as my AI, but it is in repair for the moment, so I just use the soundcard of my Macbook, don't know if it matters, because when I turn off automation, my pitch bend works. Thx, for helping me Antoine from Belgium
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  • toine
    Posts: 39
    Joined: Dec 19th, 2007, 06:21
    Re: Pitch Bend
    I'm going to try to put new life in this topic 'cause I went to a store where there is a Logic specialist (or he think he is ;-) ), but didn't know an anwser to my problem. Is this a bug in Logic?
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  • Rounik Admin
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    Joined: Dec 16th, 2006, 08:13
    Re: Pitch Bend
    Hi Antoine Is it possible that your pitch bend wheel is not selected in the ES2 patch to 'pitch'? Or perhaps it has been assigned to a different function in your Key commands?
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  • steveH
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    Joined: Oct 17th, 2006, 05:19
    Re: Pitch Bend
    Hi Antoine, After I reread your question, I finally understand how to answer: The "bender range" parameter in "track" automation" refers to the semitone "range" that the ES2 (or any) soft synth will bend it's pitch using the bender controller NOT the actually bend itself. Bend automation is most often synchronized to individual MIDI notes. It is for this reason that ALL pitch bend control data is record only as "REGION" based automation and not "track" based automation. Region automation is captured, during the recording process in the region where the accompanying MIDI notes reside. If you want to manually edit the bender performance you must go to one of Logic's MIDI editors: the Piano Roll (in Hyper Edit View) or the Hyper Editor, or even the the Event List. I suggest you: 1. Double click the MIDI region you want to edit. 2. Then in the Piano Roll's View menu select Hyper Draw/Pitch Bend (it's near the bottom). 3. Now using your Pencil Tool, you can draw pitch bend data all day long! Better yet... pitch bend can be recorded into a region as a separate pass, or can be recorded as you record your MIDI notes. I hope this helps! Steve
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  • toine
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    Joined: Dec 19th, 2007, 06:21
    Re: Pitch Bend
    Ok I understand, I will test it. Thx a lot !!!
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  • Stretch179
    Posts: 3
    Joined: Sep 16th, 2006, 10:16
    Re: Pitch Bend
    Hi Steve I have a follow up question regarding pitch bending. Much of the time, I am on the road, without a keyboard/midi controller, so I tend to make my pitch bends by drawing them in manually. I have made the jump from Ableton Live to Logic 8, and I am very happy with the move, but the one area that I am a little bit frustrated in is the writing of pitch bends. In Live, I was able to draw the automation lines just as I would volume, panning or any other parameter. Unless I am missing something, in Logic it seems that the way to do this is in the hyper editor. But the pitch section in the hyper editor is very hard to use effectively. I am having no luck manipulating the bricks in the hyper editor to get the sounds I hear in my head. In Live, I was able to write smooth lines with ease and quickness, but not in Logic. I wish that Logic gave me the ability to write pitch in the track automation, and unless I am missing something, it doesn't seem to. Can you shed some light on how I can effectively make pitch bends for my instruments in a more precise way than what the hyper editor offers? Thanks much! AB
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  • steveH
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    Joined: Oct 17th, 2006, 05:19
    Re: Pitch Bend
    Hi AB, Try using region or track automation for pitch bend. Fro region based automation:, >double click on the region >in the piano roll menus select: View/Hyper Draw/ Pitch Bend Then bend away!!
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  • Stretch179
    Posts: 3
    Joined: Sep 16th, 2006, 10:16
    Re: Pitch Bend
    That is fantastic. I can't tell you how many hours I've spent looking for this- on the Logic Pro Forum and Sonnikmatter. No one showed me this. I am literally ecstatic. Thanks so much- and I love the dvds. I have four of them.
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