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  • Maestro_T
    Posts: 9
    Joined: Dec 4th, 2006
    Poor Mans ProTools
    Hello, I have been planning to get this setup built for a long time and hope people here can advise me. Please forgive me if this gets a bit long-winded. :-) I've worked in a studio which uses 'full blown' ProTools TDM, and have always wanted my own system. I'm proud to say that I was one of the first to jump on the 'LE' bandwagon when the original Digi01 came out. I really liked the system because it used the same graphical interface, but was hampered by the fact that it was CPU dependent - even though I had a really good PC at that time, it really wasn't adequate. I really wanted a system where all that the computer did was to give me a visual view of what was going on. So, I thought I'd come up with a compromise. Then, the Digi01 was discontinued, so I sold it and put things on the back-burner while I got on with making music. For the proposed system, I have the following hardware: 1 x Dual G4 450 1 x M-Audio Delta 1010 1 x old PowerMac 9200(or something like that) 2 x Akai 4track HD recorders 1 x Akai CDS3000XL sampler 1 x Mackie 12 channel analogue mixer 1 x Yahama Promix01 automated digital mixer I also have a couple of old sound modules/drum machines that I could press into service if needed. I have the following Software: Cubase on both macs Digital Performer on G4 Recycle! on the Powermac I plan to get: ProTools M-Powered Plugins/applications for Time-stretching, pitch shifting/correcting, and harmonising. Right, so now here's my plan. I want to build a system where I record and edit audio in ProTools and 'ferry' the recorded audio back and forth between the computers and the HD recorders. This would relieve the stress off the CPU so that I could do more complex "stuff". :-) The HD recorders are synched up via MMC/MTC and so far, have been rock solid and completely reliable. Plus they're as easy to use as the old tape based porta-studios. I do most of my composition in Cubase on the PC. This is mostly midi work, via external hardware modules/FX with the odd virtual instrument/FX. Then, when I'm lucky enough to have a singer, I record vocals to go with my compostions. I mainly work with solo singers, and this sometimes makes backing vocals difficult. I also like to 're-use' the vocal recordings for different tracks and different tempos etc. I now want to use the Macs, the sampler, and the HD recorders to record vocals and manipulate them into backing vocals, harmonies etc... Then incorporate them into various compositions. I tend to do this sort of thing after a recording session so that I'm not eating into a singers recording time. Although a very convoluted way of doing things, can anyone here see any other major pitfalls with my plan? Can anyone recommend other software(s) that will "help" me to realise my system? I'm an old school producer with old school equipment and I want to make the most out of it instead of constantly buying new stuff and never really getting the full use out of what I already have. Again, I apologise for being so long-winded. Please feel free to ask for any further information or to point out anything I have left out. Thanks, Maestro_T
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  • Christian L
    Posts: 1416
    Joined: Aug 7th, 2006
    Re: Poor Mans ProTools
    Hi Maestro T, If you want to do manipulate a vocal track to create harmonies, I would suggest you to check out Melodyne. As far as I know, it's the best tool to time-stretch and and pitchshift audio. Here's a link : [url]http://www.celemony.com/cms/[/url] Also, did you think about changing your Mac to a more recent and powerful model ? Take care!
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  • Maestro_T
    Posts: 9
    Joined: Dec 4th, 2006
    Re: Poor Mans ProTools
    Hello Christian, Thanks for the reply. I will definitely be looking at Melodyne. I've already 'heard' great things about it. A more powerful Mac would be great, but I'm trying to work with what I already have and limit the cost of any new additions. It's my understanding that when these machines were more in use, there was still quite a bit that could be done with them. My plan is to do the manipulations to the point that I am happy with them, then shift the processed audio to the HD recorders/sampler. That way it's as if it's just midi and has little/no hit on the CPU. I could then just carry on and build a more complex arrangement without stressing the computer.
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