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  • Student469162
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    Software update.
    I have a new software update Big Sur. Are the softwares also Sierra and Catalina? Do the new ones are releasing so quikly? As Catalina is quite new, I guess... I only have it few times - and I like it less than Sierra.
  • Joe A
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    Re: Software update.
    If you use music software you should never upgrade to a new version of the OS until it's been out for around 3-6 months. Currently many plug-ins and DAWs are not yet compatible with Big Sur, so if you've already upgraded to it you may run into problems if you have any 3rd-party plug-ins or music software other then GarageBand or Logic. If you haven't actually upgraded to Big Sur yet, don't -- stick with whatever you're currently running -- Mojave or Catalina -- for the next few months at least.
  • Student469162
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    Re: Software update.
    If I go to apple menu system preferences software update then I can read unable to check the updates make sure you are connected to the internet. But I am connected to the internet. Also, there were 3 updates, one is security and two safaris. I did security one, it told that restart is required, but mac didn't make a restart, and now all 3 updates are disappeared there to nowhere. Why?
  • Joe A
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    Re: Software update.
    Maybe the restart box was just a generic notification, and a restart wasn't really necessary for that particular update..? I suggest you manually shutdown/restart the computer, and then check if those updates are still available -- if not then I'd guess they were applied.. But I'd still be careful with those incremental updates, especially security updates -- I'd still avoid doing them until they've been out for a while and I'd checked on various forums for reports of issues with third-party applications & plug-ins.
  • Student469162
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    Re: Software update.
    Is there difference between shut down and restart? I have shut down mac multiple times, still "not connected to the internet" and not is seen all my 3 updates. Now I made restart and all 3 updates are here again..Why are you careful about security updates? Aren't they necessary? For protect the mac?
  • Joe A
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    Re: Software update.
    Shutdown physically powers down the computer and flushes the caches, which can get rid of any bad code or corrupted background operations -- it also runs diagnostics at startup that can detect and address some left-over issues. Restart doesn't do all that so it's less likely to solve some problems, which is why when you're having inexplicable issues you should always do a full shutdown, wait around 30 seconds, and then power up again. OS updates -- especially security updates -- can occasionally break third-party software [and even Apple software at times] -- it happens often enough that most audio/video people don't do ANY updates, no matter how minor, without waiting long enough [weeks/months] for reports of problems to surface on reliable user forums, and then doing their due diligence [research and an up-to-date bootable backup] before updating. If you want to take your chances and succumb to Apple's pushing to always stay current, then go ahead, but unless you maintain a current clone backup and know how to do a full restore, I would instead turn off automatic updates and follow the recording studio mantra -- "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".
  • Student469162
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    Joined: Sep 20th, 2020
    Re: Software update.
    OK, now I got it. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I'll live with that. Thanks.
  • Student469162
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    Re: Software update.
    Well, I turned off automatic updates. Do all these turned off updates still will remain in anywhere, for anyhow.. ?
  • Joe A
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    Re: Software update.
    "Do all these turned off updates still will remain in anywhere, for anyhow.. ?" I don't really understand the question.. If you're asking if updates you've already done will stay updated, then yes.
  • Student469162
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    Joined: Sep 20th, 2020
    Re: Software update.
    No, I am asking, if I don't do updates, but I decide them do for example a year later, will these updates still anywhere are "waiting" for me? Or what happens to updates which are not updated? Is there a list of the non-updated ones ?
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