I have just opened Logic in 32 bit mode, and immediately was able to access the Ivory Grand pianos inside Logic !! And even my VSL plugins work too, which leaves me completely baffled - what is the purpose of this 32 bit bridge, that regularly quits (during rest breaks)if I need to operate Logic 9 in 32 bit mode? I have studied the advantages of 64 bit, saving a lot of processing power and enabling a greater number of instruments to be instantiated, but presumably the 64 bit capability is of no use to me unless I use 64 bit applications ? I have just seen your suggestion above, by the way - so you were spot on with your advice ! But having now solved the problem, I would love to be enlightened regarding my previous set-up - 64 bit and 32 bit audio bridge. Best wishes Cefnfaes

OK, but switching between two versions - 64 and 32, would not be practical in any one project (if that project contains both 32 and 64 bit plugins) would it ? If I've understood you correctly, whilst I'm using any plugins which are 32 bit (such as Ivory), I have to open Logic in 32 bit mode, even if there are 64 bit plugins there as well. Is that correct ? Actually, don't use any 64 bit plugins. But what would I do if either Ivory, or vsl (but not both simultaneously) changed to 64 bit ? Of course vsl do an application called Vienna Ensemble Pro. I find their description of this very difficult to understand (which is why I haven't bought it) but have the impression that it will run a mixture of 64 bit and 32 bit applications. I wonder if that is your understanding ? Good wishes Cefnfaes

I would be very interested in what you can find out about VEP. Would you like me to start a new thread in this? Perhaps with the question "Why would I want Vienna Ensemble Pro ?" Because that's actually the question I'd most like to be answered ! I love vsl - it's just fantastic, even in the Special Edition and Special Edition Plus - but though they have improved their web site and documentation recently, there is a desperate need (which has been voiced by vsl users for some time) for some really good tutorials. Tutorials of the sort that I have seen from you for example. And speaking of tutorials, yes I have seen Steve H's very good videos on 64 bit Logic, and other subjects. Cheers ! Cefnfaes

Many manufacturers of excellent instrument plugins, such as Ivory Grand Pianos and Vienna Symphonic Library, have not yet converted to 64 bit audio, which, as Steve H has ably demonstrated in his videos, is a fantastic advance in Logic 9, allowing the use of a hugely increased amount of RAM, with all its advantages. However, vsl have released Vienna Ensemble, and, for some extra money, Vienna Ensemble Pro (VEP). This, if I understand it correctly, allows the simultaneous use of 32 bit and 64 bit applications. Am I perhaps also right in saying that it enables vsl to operate in 64 bit mode ? My vagueness here stems from a general ignorance of things technical, but also from my perusal of a vsl web-site and set of tutorials, which I find very difficult to follow, even though they have improved them a good deal recently. They do respond with commendable speed to any question emailed to them, always very helpfully,but it seems unfair to bombard them too often with so many basic questions! I love the Vienna Symphonic Library (vsl) - it's just amazing, even in the Special Edition and Special Edition Plus, which is the level I use - but though they have improved their web site and documentation recently, there is still a desperate need (which has been voiced by vsl users for some time) for a really good set of tutorials of the sort that I have seen from you, Rounik, for example. So I would welcome any snippets of information and advice which you, or others, feel like giving. I'm sure many other aspiring composers would be similarly interested. I suppose my basic question is given in the heading to this submission. "Why would I need VE or VEP ?" Best wishes Cefnfaes

Hello Ski- a very interesting and persuasive opening argument. Thank you. Cefnfaes

Hi Rounik This is my second starter today, as my earlier attempt was, I think, in the wrong place on your forum- sorry ! Can you tell me how to retrieve a midi track which I have accidentally deleted ? I know it's still on the HD somewhere, but poor memory and lack of experience is letting me down. I'm running Logic 9.1.7 in 64 bit mode, with VSL, on OS 10.8 Oh, and one little point also, which causes me some irritation. Why is it that when I use colours on the instrument tracks (as distinct from instrument automation tracks) that some of the tracks are of uniform colour, whilst others have the colour I selected along just the top third of the track, leaving grey in the lower two thirds ? I find using colours useful, so that I can quickly distinguish instrument tracks from automation ones. Hope I've explained all this properly ! Thank you Rounik Best wishes Cefnfaes

Hi Rounik - hope I find you in good form ! Logic 9 is very slow in OS 10.9.3. It's so slow, that it's almost impossible to do anything without exerting a considerable strain on my central nervous system. Every little edit, even just moving the window from one screen to another, takes an age. My computer is fast on all other applications, and whilst I'm not sure, I think the change in speed with Logic may have been since the last update in my operating system. I'm running VSL within Logic, and have quite a lot of RAM (22GB on this 2x2.8 GHz Quad-core Intel Xeon). Could it be that the only solution to this is to upgrade to Logic 10? Best wishes Cefnfaes

Rounik and Christian - thank you very much, both of you. Together you have transformed Logic 9 into something quite marvellous once again ! I thought I'd done a permission repair only recently, but in any case, on receipt of your suggestion Rounik, I started by doing another, and immediately there was some improvement. Then the next great idea - 64 bit - for Heaven's sake, how could I not have known that my Logic has been running in 34 bit, whilst my other software - VSL and Ivory Pianos, are both in 64 bit ? Now Logic really is going well. What a relief ! Thanks again. Best wishes Cefnfaes