Kind of a general question... I'm just looking for better workflows for versioning a song while working on it. When I work on a song, I usually compose within Logic, meaning that I don't have the song sections built out before I start recording. I like trying out a lot of different ideas before committing them to the actual song composition. Right now, my method for recording these ideas is just [i]awful[/i]: I select and copy tracks upon tracks of regions, and paste them later on in the timeline so I can try out an idea on a song section before I change what I like from what I created. This is bad because it's time-consuming, and introduces a lot of opportunities for errors (like misplaced regions, etc). Are there any good workflows to version out songs that you can recommend? Thanks, Jason

Hope someone can help me troubleshoot! I'm recording audio, but on playback within the arrange window, the audio track makes no sound. I know the audio record is successful because I can play the recording back within the Sample Editor. I'm also able to visually see the wave forms within the region that I've recorded within the arrange window. In terms of I/Os, I [i]think[/i] everything should work properly; I've created the audio track on which I'm recording by hitting the "New Track With Duplicate Settings Button," and the track I'm duplicating is playing back perfectly fine. Both of these tracks are set to "Input 1" and "Stereo Out." The track is not muted, and no other tracks are solo'd. Also, I know that the problem is not isolated to that track. I've created test tracks with differing inputs (for example, I created a stereo input using Input 3-4. I've also tested by toggling my input device from my audio interface (Focusrite Scarlett 18i6) to the internal mic (I'm actually recording scratch vocals using the internal mic). In all cases, the audio will not play back within the arrange window. I've tried Save-As and creating a new project using my existing project as a starting point, and the same problem persists. However, I also tried created a new project from scratch, and the problem does NOT persist: I'm able to play back audio within the arrange window. Any ideas? OSX 10.7.5 Logic 9.1.8

Thanks for the reply, Gary! I'll test this out on Friday after the holiday... Although I did open a new project and found that I was able to record an audio region and play it back within the arrange window, I did not try importing the same audio region from the previous project into the new project to test. I'll give it a shot! My audio interface is a Focusrite Scarlett 18i6... However, I'm not sure what you mean by "what am I setting up as my audio output device." Do you mean in Preferences > Audio? (if so, the Focusrite is always selected for output device; for input device, I toggle between Focusrite and built-in Microphone, since I don't have a mic yet). I'm only mentioning that because I'm suspicious that toggling the input device creates errors and sometimes forces me to restart. Thanks!

Thanks so much for the replies. Unfortunately for me, nothing appears to be working. Gary, per your note, I tried "save as" and checked off all the boxes to ensure the assets are duplicated. Unfortunately, the problem was also duplicated in the new project--everything works fine except that I can't play back that audio channel in the arrange window. Rounik, the audio channel output is set to "Stereo Out." I created this audio track by duplicating the settings of my already-existing lead vox track. The lead vox track works perfectly. I'm attaching a screen shot of the 2 channel strips, side-by-side...all settings look identical and correct. I also went through the troubleshooting list, but I'm not seeing anything that looks applicable to a single audio track not playing back.... I'm thinking maybe the project is corrupt (which is weird, but weirder things have happened)... if this is the case, would the best bet be to see if there is a back-up saved and revert to a previous version? [b]Thanks again so much for the help! [/b] [url=http://www.macprovideo.com/forum/upload/upload/server/php/savedfiles/files/mpv_40757_195673_Screen_Shot_2012-11-23_at_11.47.50_AM.png] [img]http://www.macprovideo.com/forum/upload/upload/server/php/savedfiles/thumbnails/mpv_40757_195673_Screen_Shot_2012-11-23_at_11.47.50_AM.png[/img] [/url]

Thanks for the help, again... I'm actually messing with the project now and am pretty sure this is a bigger issue than I realized before. I thought that audio regions i had just recorded weren't playing back in the arrange window, but what I didn't realize was that this was a symptom of an even bigger issue: Within the project, Logic is not recognizing changes made within the arrange window at all--this goes for adding regions, but also moving them. I am now moving regions around so that the music line would go out-of-rhythm. Although I can see the regions move, on playback of the arrange window, Logic is playing back where that music line was originally...as if the audio arrangement is somehow cached within the memory, and the program isn't registering that anything has changed at all. Even after saving, closing the project, and re-openining, it still plays back the older version of the arrangement (although the changes I made to where the regions are placed in the arrange window ARE changed). So, previously, when I had added a new audio region--I'm theorizing--Logic simply hadn't "realized" that a change had been made within the arrange window, so it just played back the "cached" audio. Does this change how I should approach this issue? Would you know if there is a setting I might have accidentally "checked" (I wouldn't have a clue where... looking through Preferences > Audio, everything is identical to other projects that are working fine)? Or does this sound like an issue that others have run into before? Thanks so much!

[quote=Rounik]It sounds like a corrupt project... but not something I've ever suffered with since I began using Logic back in 2002. Does the region problem happen only with audio files? [b]No, I'm also moving MIDI regions, and the same problem happens. [/b] Did you record these audio files into the Logic project, or import them? If the later, what format were they? [b]I recorded them into Logic.[/b] What version of OS X are you running?... and Logic Pro? Is it 9.1.8 in 64-bit mode? [b]OSX 10.7.5 Logic 9.1.8...I'm not sure if I'm running it in 64-bit mode.. I don't think so, but how can I verify?[/b] Are you using an 3rd party plug-ins? Which ones? [b]Not in this project. I have a couple of 3rd party plugins (sampler instruments and synths), but that prly wouldn't create an issue in this project...Or is that possible?[/b] Have you tried raising the I/O Buffer size? (Preferences > Audio | Devices) [b]Yes, I upped it from 256 to 512, but the same problem persists.[/b] Is Universal Track Mode enabled in the same preference pane? [b]Yes.[/b] You could also try Options > Audio > Refresh Overview(s) [b]That is actually grayed-out...[/b] and if you're using a lot of fades on the audio regions, might be a good idea to delete them: Options > Audio > Delete All Fade Files [b]Tried it, but the same problem's still there.[/b] Would be interesting to see if this project has the same problems on a different Mac. Let me know if you want me to take a closer look. [b]Thanks so much for the help!! I'm going to try troubleshooting a bit more but will then probably just rebuild the song in a new project since I can probably knock it out in a couple hours, and this just seems like (I hope) a random edge-case bug. If anything comes to mind that might be a quick fix, pls let me know.[/b] Best, R[/quote]

Not going to believe this, but it was a user error all along... I had been looking at a project nested within a folder within the greater project. The greater project had several similar-sounding versions of the song, one-per-folder, in the "master" arrange window. The whole time I was moving regions around, it was in a muted version of the song. Embarrassing, but all's well that ends well. Back to work: ) Thanks for the help! Much appreciated.