Steve, Did you get a chance to look into this. If I load PLAY as a multitimbral in Logic 8 and leave the default to 16 channels when creating an instrument, I can track automate on the first instrument in PLAY. I notice that creating a multitimbral instrument adds additional automation types for, in this case, PLAY. If I don't create a multitimbral, then I don't see those additional automation types for PLAY. This video shows me moving the Volume slider in PLAY with Logic 8 track automation. [url]http://www.digimixstudios.net/autoInstPlay[/url] The problem is when I try to track automate another track, all the track automation data goes to the first instrument. So the Volume slider goes nuts because it's receiving from both tracks. I did put a monitor object on the output in the Enviorment for the 2 tracks in question and did notice that it is sending out the automation data to the same track. The notes were sent to the individual tracks, but the automation data was sent to the same track. Question is, how can I intercept that so I can put a transport object in and change that. I notice it's not the same setup as your tutorial shows in October. You plug in a multi-instrument object then add in the arrange window those tracks. Since I added the instrument as a multitimbral, those additional tracks are already there and assigned to the midi channels. I hope I said this all right and haven't confused you with my post here. I'll be submitting a support ticket to EastWest as well to see if they can shed any light on this. BTW - You're TNT videos are great. I knew Logic could do alot more and your TNT videos show that. Look forward to future TNT videos.

I'm answering my own post cause I figured out how to do this but it still didn't solve the PLAY issue. Turns out Logic 8 handles automation for a multimbral instrument just fine [url]http://www.digimixstudios.net/LogicMultimbral[/url] (I show SampleTank 2 and Omnisphere here) I'll be creating a support ticket for EastWest later tonight, but its an issue with PLAY not Logic 8.

In Logic 8, if you create an instrument as a Multimbral and select it's multioutput, there's no need for a CC7 to CC11 Transformer Object. [url]http://www.digimixstudios.net/Logic8MultiOutputNoCC7toCC11Needed/[/url] Just thought I'd share this with everyone.

Logic does have many ways to accomplish things. That's what's cool about it. Regarding the c7 to c11, while it works great with EastWest's PLAY, on TERA and I think it was SampleTank, the c7 to c11 acts as a fine tune to where the volume is at. It doesn't work to the min/max value of the volume. I'm trying to use a common approach as oppose to c7 to c11 for PLAY and another approach for other multimbral instruments. I'm checking all the other multimbral instruments I have. I'm just making stuff easy for me. I did notice in headphones that the output when all the instrument channels are independent, the gain is increased. I don't know the right term for that but it sounds alot fuller in sound.

While watching an orchestra on a cable channel, something click in my head and I got an idea regarding Volume Automation for a multi-timbral instrument in Logic 8. What I noticed was the conductor motioning to the players what to do, in particular, how to play as in soft or loud. Since players with their instruments aren't plugged into amps, they can't control volume, but they can control velocity. That's when I decide to take a different approach at Volume Automation on a multi-timbral, why not just do Velocity Automation with Automation in the Arrange Window for a Multi-timbral instrument in Logic 8. All I have to do is take the CC7 value and apply it to the velocity of the notes that follow. When I get another CC7, I apply that new value to the velocity of the notes that follow and so forth. This has a more realistic feel than that of volume automation. In a live orchestra, the volume is the same for everyone, what's different for each player is velocity. Concentrating on velocity is better for sampled instruments as well, since not only do you get different WAV files for each note, but you also get different WAV files for each notes velocity. For the different WAV files for velocity, they don't just turn the decibel (db) down on the WAV file, it's played the way a player would play the instrument, loud -> to -> soft. So with all this info, take a peek at a Logic 8 Enviroment Macro I created to accomplish this using the Volume Automation in the Arrange Window for a instrument created as a Multi-Timbral in Logic 8, it's now Velocity Automation. Note: I've also taken into consideration with this Macro, the "Machine-Gun" effect as well. Multi-Timbral Setup http://www.digimixstudios.net/VelocityAutomation Single Instrument Setup http://www.digimixstudios.net/VelocityAutomationMacro